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Kurt Angle: The Falling Star

Posted in Xtremeview by Jack at 19:31, Mar 16 2008

by Jason "XtremeFalls" Simmons

Originally posted: November 16, 2006

Kurt Angle is a 6 time former WWE Champion, a former WWE Tag Team Champion, former WWE European Champion, former Hardcore Champion, former Intercontinental Champion, and a former King of the Ring Champion. However he was held back in the WWE. Am I the only one who finds that statement completely ridiculous? Well though words came out of the Olympic Gold Medalist Kurt Angle. Now it?s pretty obvious Kurt Angle right now is the hottest topic in professional wrestling at least on the internet but one must wonder who to believe. Should we believe the WWE, TNA management, or Kurt?s own words? Another question what will Kurt?s movement to TNA wrestling really do for them and how will it affect the WWE?



First I?ll look at Total Non-Stop Action Wrestling and let?s really see how valuable their words truly are. TNA has made the claim that they are sure Kurt?s health is fine and Kurt no longer has any problems with drugs or pills. Now let me be perfectly clear when I say this. I think TNA are the biggest hypocrites on the planet when it comes to drug issues in wrestling. This is the company whose own president made the claim in an interview that no one has any problems with drugs besides Raven in the past when they where asked about having a drug policy in TNA. Now it?s bad enough they made Raven the scapegoat but that statement is a down right lie. To make matters worst within weeks of saying this Shane Douglas was placed in rehab, who just so happen to be a TNA employee. Too make TNA sound more clueless there booker and champion at the time Jeff Jarrett said on ESPN?s Quiet Frankly TV Show about a drug policy ?We?ll handle them as they come, unless there drawing money?. He was obviously joking, but on National TV that is not a smart remark just months after the death of Eddie Guerrero which is the main reason for the WWE?s drug policy. Also keep in mind Jeff Jarrett a while back was stopped at an air port with an empty drug pipe. Also former TNA wrestler Hector Garza was deported from the USA for steroids just days before his meeting with Scott Hall at a PPV. Does TNA seem serious about drug issues in there company? In my opinion not really and just pass it off as only the WWE?s problem when questioned about drugs in wrestling.

Now whether or not TNA is truly worried about drugs is a whole different issue but are they even worried about Angle?s health? Kurt Angle has had neck problems since 1996 I think that is well documented but does TNA really care? Lets be honest here folks back in 2003 Kurt Angle made a bad decision with his neck surgery that many have called putting a Band-Aid on a serious problem. TNA then signs this man full well knowing he has some rumored Demons and problems with personal responsibility. However what does TNA get for this move? A lot of fans were against the move and looked to be seriously upset with them for signing Kurt Angle. TNA was rumored to be shocked by the response which isn?t hard to believe considering TNA usually gets a free pass from the internet. So do they really care? I think this question will be answered down the road but until then you have to wonder about TNA?s motives.

Now I?ll take a look at Kurt?s former employer: the WWE, which is far from innocent in this case. Now don?t get me wrong I believe WWE is telling the truth about Kurt?s release, I think they really did try to help the man. However I think they did it to little to late. The signs of Angle?s health decline have been around for years. Case in point going into WrestleMania 20 Angle was rumored to complain of numbness around the time. They handled this by making him a General Manager but it was probably one of the worst runs of SmackDown programming in the history of the show, and he was placed back on the active roster. However Angle continued to suffer injures whether small or not WWE should have started to notice Angle was being injured more often. Also I think anyone who has seen Angle wrestle since last fall realized the man obviously had some serious issues when he was turning bright red during his matches and seemed to be ready to combust on camera. So while I think WWE did try and help Angle at the end before his release my personal feeling was they waited too long.

Now lets move on to the man himself the Olympic gold medalist, Kurt Angle. I think TNA and the WWE share blame in making stupid decision regarding this man?s health and safety but Kurt Angle is suspect number one. If you ask me over the past couple of years it seems that any wrestler with personal issues seem to think every problem they had was not there fault and in most cases Vince McMahon?s. Kurt Angle is one of these people. Anyone who has read one of his recent interviews has been met with lies and straight up BS from this man. Now Kurt made the claim first that he was held back in the WWE and after saying this, I realized this man has ZERO credibility. This man has held every title, headlined WrestleMania, and he has the gall to claim he was held back. Now remember most wrestlers will never even headline a major wrestling event and Angle has the gall to claim he was held back, give me a break.

Now this isn?t the only down right ridiculous statement made by Angle, because it seems every interview he has done since coming to TNA he has said something that was ridiculous. Too start this off however I want to quote Lance Storm in saying ?Kurt didn?t jump to TNA, he was fired?. Many fans and Kurt Angle himself seem to think Angle really quit WWE, which would make sense if there wasn?t so much evidence to back up that he was fired. Case in point Angle has claimed to be clean for 8 months during his conference call interview, which had more holes in it then a piece of Swiss cheese. Now back to my point, if Angle has been clean for 8 months why was he suspend for a drug policy violation during the summer? Angle also made the claim WWE never gave the guy time off when asked for it and that he was forced to work shows injured. However he also in the same interview claimed he couldn?t stop wrestling, always gives it 120%, and complained that the WWE didn?t put him on the Summerslam card when he had a known groin injury at the time. Also it was rumored through the end of August Angle was sent home because of injuries and was very unhappy about it. Also rumored had it WWE offered to send him to rehab, but he continued to insist he didn?t have a problem. Now after all of this, I?m coming to the conclusion that Kurt Angle is in complete denial.

Now if Angle truly wasn?t fired and he quit the WWE, why was it rumored that he was seen coming out of the WWE?s office an emotional wreck after a loud meeting with Vince McMahon? Also anyone who thinks WWE would have let Kurt go for any other reason besides they feared for his health you?re kidding yourself. WWE would not of let a wrestler they have build up to that status go for no reason, and if Angle truly quit he would have been on a 90 day no complete clause at least. Also I would like to leave you with this point, remember when Vince McMahon announced the drug policy to the wrestlers on their website? Only one was asking questions and that was one was Kurt Angle. So when it comes down to it, I can?t believe one word coming out of the mouth of Kurt Angle. In my own opinion I think this man needs to start taking some personal responsibility for his own actions and stop blaming the WWE and everything else under the sun for his problems.

Now I would like to take a look at what affect it would have on WWE that Kurt Angle has left. Personally I look at it as a positive because Kurt Angle was starting to become incredibly stale and very boring. His matches were going down hill and personally I think he hasn?t had an outstanding match since Shawn Michaels vs. Angle at WWE Homecoming last October. His character was becoming incredibly annoying, as he started this aggressive gimmick that really was becoming ridiculous. Not because he was aggressive but he was overly aggressive where he is screaming in the middle of the ring during a match with his veins popping out of his forehead and just looking and sounding fake. So I personally thought it was time for Angle to be pushed out of the younger stars way.

Kurt Angle the wrestler wasn?t the only problem it was Kurt Angle the man as rumors around 2005 and 2006 has made it clear this man is no longer into anyone but himself. Case in point Kurt constantly was complaining to Vince about having another title run, but Vince didn?t trust him to hold it because of health issues. Yet when Kurt was put in a Main Event feud with John Cena last fall it was nothing but a complete flop, as Angle obviously was more interested in getting Kurt Angle over then Cena. However WWE moved Angle over to Smackdown when Batista was injured and Kurt was given a title run. The title run was really non eventful and probably the least successful title run out of any of his runs. However Angle was soon gone from Smackdown and was sent to the new ECW, and Angle complained. Kurt Angle run in ECW was short and bitter as it was marked with injuries, suspensions, him squashing wrestlers, and constantly complaining. Too make matters worst Kurt did a German suplex on RVD at a house show, and RVD was injured. Kurt was very quick to blame the injury on RVD which didn?t help Kurt?s already rumored bad reputation in the ECW locker room.

Soon after that incident Angle was released and TNA signed him. So far Angle hasn?t done much in terms of ratings, but he has done much in terms of knocking the WWE at every opportunity. Also he is right now in a rushed feud with Samoa Joe that should have been held off for a couple of months, but now is being forced onto the next PPV. Now what does Kurt Angle have to offer TNA? Well personally I don?t know, Angle could help the wrestlers in TNA but ?could? is the key word. Will he help them out? That?s a question that only Kurt Angle knows. He does however lend name value but Nash, Hall, Savage, Christian, Raven, Sting, and Rhino all lent name value and it didn?t seem to help TNA at all. So time will only tell what happens with Kurt in TNA. Will he try to be like Terry Funk was in ECW helping out anyway he could or will he be the Hulk Hogan in WCW where he made it clear he was the show? Time will tell, and that will be Angle?s choice. When it comes down to it I think most of us can agree Kurt needs to shut up and wrestle.

Now that?s all I have for this time, feedback negative or positive will be answered.

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00:44, Mar 18 2008

Personally, I think Kurt Angle is still the man. Yes, I want him to drop the title to Samoa Joe immediately, and hopefully that happens at TNA Lockdown. Of course, that's Kurt Angle doing his job as a heel.

As for Angle's "crazy comments" in interviews, I agree, a lot of them are pretty out there. But me, that doesn't bother me at all. He can give all the crazy interviews he wants. Maybe he's working us, maybe he's not, either way the man is entertaining.

As for whether Kurt was fired or not, I'd say he was not fired. Kurt said he begged for a release from his contract, and Vince gave it to him. I've never heard anything to contradict that. But hey, that's a minor point here, moving on...

Also, I do believe Kurt's comment that WWE worked him to the bone and wouldn't let him reduce his schedule. WWE is very hesitant to give guys lighter schedules. Now Kurt has a much lighter schedule in TNA, and is surely having a better run than he would have on the ECW brand.

I think Kurt Angle made the right choice, for his health and his career.

Go, Kurt, go! And I'm sure Kurt will job clean to Joe at Lockdown, ushering in the Joe era. Of course, Angle already tapped out to Joe in their 2nd pay-per-view match. I'm sure Kurt will do it again.

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Interview Recap - Kaos vs Vampiro

Posted in Interview Recaps by Jack at 17:54, May 23 2008

by Neal Jones

Vampiro vs. Kaos IYH Interview Recap
by Neal Jones

Vampiro was the scheduled guest, and Kaos was the surprise guest on In Your Head Wrestling Online Radio hosted by Jack, OneInchBiceps and Barbie Richards. Listen live every Wednesday 8:00-10:00 PM EST at http://www.inyourheadonline.com and check out our full FREE archive section with over 3 years of archived interviews.


Vampiro was scheduled to come on IYH at 8 PM EST. He could not be reached, when his opponent at XPW Cold Day In Hell, ?the Triple Threat Superstar? Kaos called in.

XPW Cold Day In Hell
Saturday Night, May 24 2008
Aviation Park
Redondo Beach, CA

http://www.thexpw.com


Kaos said Vampiro is always like this, he leaves everyone hanging. Kaos goes on to say Vampiro never lives up to promises, and tells a story about how Vampiro left him at the airport. Kaos hopes Vampiro shows up for their match at Cold Day in Hell.

Jack asks if Kaos has come across veterans with big heads. Kaos says he is a guy who brags about beating Hulk Hogan and Sting and doesn?t have time for the young guys.

Kaos talks about missing XPW, and ever since it?s demise in 2003 he has searched for a home. No locker room has compared to it, and everyone is really excited and wanting to prove themselves.

Jack asks if XPW guys were blackballed after XPW?s demise. Kaos says absolutely he and Webb, Pogo, Supreme etc were blackballed after the Heat Wave ECW PPV incident.

Kaos talks about admiring Vampiro and all he has done in wrestling. Going from a young Canadian kid who ate out of dumpsters and making a huge name for himself in Mexico. He thinks maybe Vamp sees Kaos as someone young and hungry to take his spot.

Kaos talks about the return of the Gangstas after about 10 years. New Jack and Mustafa didn?t get along well, and now they are back for one show.

Caller Jason asks what Kaos? favorite match was. Kaos talks about facing off with Dynamite D. Kaos talks about Supreme and their wrestling school. Kaos talks about the infamous match where Supreme was burned badly, they had a falling out but recently got back together. Jack mentions how Kaos still got the pinfall after Supreme was laid out and burned, Kaos said he was a little lost when he saw him charred but Supreme wanted a finish for the match.

Jack brings up Dynamite D ?Mr. 80?s?, who passed away a few years ago, and the tribute Battle Royal that will take place at XPW Cold Day In Hell. Kaos tells some stories of the different impersonations Dynamite D did.

Kaos talks about getting himself into the greatest shape of his life for his match with Vampiro. Jack asks if he thinks Vampiro is taking this match seriously. Kaos thinks Vampiro just sees him as a young chump, and he has has wrestled big names and might not be training hard for the comeback match.

Jack says the IYH Crew will be rooting Kaos on in the match with Vampiro because he now showed IYH tonight.

Caller Jason brings up Chris Hamrick as one of the most underrated wrestlers and his matches with Kaos being great. Kaos says Chris knows how to pop a crowd, work hold for hold, comedy he can do it all. Kaos talks about learning a lot just working with guys like Hamrick and Shane Douglas.

Kaos talks about ?The Dead Sleep Easy? movie with Vampiro, where he also no showed the premier of. Kaos talks about being in the movie with Aguilera and Luke Hawks. Kaos said Vamp was in and out of the set like a big star with a big head. Kaos says Vamp didn?t have respect for the smaller characters on the set.

Kaos puts over the Fan Fest at XPW Cold Day in Hell before the event.

XPW Cold Day In Hell
Saturday Night, May 24 2008
Aviation Park
Redondo Beach, CA

http://www.thexpw.com

Kaos says Vampiro hasn?t wrestled for 3 years.

Kaos talks about working with Rob Black, and never having a problem with him. He credits Rob for his start in the business and exposure for a lot of guys.

Jack asks if the show does well, could XPW come back. Kaos says they want to focus on this one show being off the charts. If the show does well and the upcoming DVD?s sell well he could see it. Kaos says everyone had their hopes up for WSX, so he knows not to get too excited about anything.

Kaos hoped WSX was going to be everyone?s big break. He doesn?t believe MTV ever got behind the product. He thought it was a great experience and so different than anything else he ever did. Kaos liked the Fight Club look of the show.

Jack asks if the season being taped at once was frustrating because they couldn?t change the show the next week based off feedback. Kaos says that?s true plus it was a hectic schedule.

Caller El Santo asks if Kaos ever wrestled in AAA or CMLL. Kaos says he frequents NGS with Supreme, it is a supreme ECW based promotion. Kaos says as Konnan says Mexico is 10 years behind American wrestling and hardcore is taking off there.

Kaos doesn?t see Vampiro wrestling much longer. Kaos talks about Vampiro being in the Guardian Angels now, and he was in the group 20 years ago in California. Kaos sees Vamp doing it as a way to hide behind a group, just like he hides behind his make-up.

Caller Kronus asks about working with John Kronus. Kaos says he was one of the best guys in the locker room, he didn?t have a big head coming from ECW. Kaos talks about how tremendous Kronus was in the ring for a big guy, and the Eliminators finisher The Total Elimination being one of the best double team maneuvers ever.

Kaos compares Vampiro to Sean ?no show? Waltman.

Kaos talks about the WSX team with ?Jesus? Aguilera. He spent some time with him working on double team moves before WSX. Kaos personally wanted to be a singles but he felt the team worked well. Kaos says there was a lot of talk for the 2nd season of WSX, they had actually written 4 seasons and eventually the team was going to split and feud. Jack says Aguilera is an underrated promo guys, Kaos said that?s why Vince hired him because he was a good talker and the injuries were bad timings for him. Jack puts over Jesus?s suspenders. Kaos mentions Jesus pushed for him to wear suspenders in the tag team.

Kaos talks about the Miss Xtreme contest at the XPW Cold Day in Hell.

Caller Flea asks if XPW ever stopped any ideas the guys had. Kaos said no but maybe they should have liked the 30? scaffold or explosions. Kaos talks about XPW TV, and how crazy it was with all the vignettes. New fans are now discovering XPW on the DVD?s from www.bigvisionentertainment.com

Kaos talks about how XPW really innovated the DVDS and t-shirts on the Indy Wrestling scene. Now everyone has them, but XPW was the first one to do it. They even had DVD?s before WWE. Kaos credits Rob Black for the XPW DVD?s.

Kaos credits GQ Money for really helping him develop his promos. Jack asks about his falling out with GQ, Kaos says they can still work together but they are no longer friends and at one time they were really close. Kaos says he was against the Enterprise group at first, he thought he?d be lost in the shuffle. It was the total opposite and really catapulted his character.

Kaos talks about a lot of the footage being guerilla footage filmed at 3 on the morning in people?s garages and even a church. At times they would stop traffic and just film their stuff. Kaos talks about basing a lot of the scenes off of movies like Pulp Fiction, Clockwork Orange, Reservoir Dogs etc.

Jack asks who?s idea was it for Kaos to wrestle with the TV title on. Kaos says it was Rob Black?s idea. He couldn?t do his 450 splash, but he did bang up some of the guys like Hamrick and Danny Doring while wearing it.

Kaos talks about getting to see all these guys again either one more time, and hopes this is done right not like the Vince McMahon?s ECW. He believes there is still an audience for hardcore wrestling.

Jack asks if there is a spot for another TV product. Kaos thinks there is, he says a lot of good indys are out there, but there can be one at the next level. Kaos puts over the David Marquez NWA shows.

Kaos says Steve Austin motto DTA Don?t Trust Anyone is something you need to live by in the wrestling business. A lot of Indy guys need to stand up for themselves and not let promoters make false promises, and want you to kill yourself for them.

Kaos talks about how WWE looks for a certain look and style. It?s hard for a guy who can?t do a 3 minute match to get over or get called up.

Kaos tells all the fans to come to XPW Cold Day in Hell. It could be your last chance to see hardcore wrestling, plus dream matches like Supreme vs. Necro Butcher, Kaos vs. Vampiro, the return of the Gangstas and Terry Funk special ref for Sabu and Homeless Jimmy vs. Raven & Johnny Webb.

XPW Cold Day In Hell
Saturday Night, May 24 2008
Aviation Park
Redondo Beach, CA

http://www.thexpw.com

Kaos says he thinks Vampiro has a big chip on his shoulder and doesn?t respect him or the show www.inyourheadonline.com Kaos says he pisses on everything Vampiro stands for. Kaos says he wants to use Vampiro as a stepping stone in his career.

Vampiro calls in 80 minutes late and confronts Kaos live on the show. Kaos tells him he is very disrespectful to himself, XPW and IYH.

Vampiro says he personally told people that Kaos had it, he put him in the movie and now he hears Kaos talking this stuff about him.

Kaos and Vampiro get into a verbal war over respect.

Vampiro says he specifically came back to wrestling to help XPW, and Kaos is ungrateful and doesn?t have the ability to draw people or get out of LA. Vampiro says Kaos blames his failures on other people. Vampiro says Kaos should go back to washing dishes and getting coffee for Kevin Kleinrock.

Kaos says Vampiro needs to put the nail in the coffin of his career. Vampiro says he has dealt with so many idiots like Kaos over his career. Vampiro doesn?t need to call people for work, people call him. Kaos says Vampiro is all about excuses and demanding things like a superstar. Vampiro says they go back a long way, he?s never cared about fame only the fans. Vampiro says Kaos will never hang with him.

Kaos and Vampiro talk about wanting to meet in a parking lot to fight, but they want to give the fans something special to see at XPW Cold Day in Hell.

XPW Cold Day In Hell
Saturday Night, May 24 2008
Aviation Park
Redondo Beach, CA

http://www.thexpw.com

Vampiro talks about coming to the show to help out the young guys, and then he gets disrespected.

Jack asks if he sees himself in Kaos. Vampiro says no, he always showed respect to the veterans, he was brought up in the old school. Vampiro talks about Kaos sending bogus emails and messing up his plane tickets. Vampiro tried to help out Kaos in XPW, WSX and in Mexico. Vampiro says it is really hard to get people in wrestling to be your friend. He took Kaos under his wing, now he talks bad about him and blames Vampiro for not making it.

Vampiro talks about being in the federal police force in Mexico, and the Guardian Angels.

Vampiro talks about charisma being the biggest thing in not just wrestling but any form of entertainment. If you can?t connect with the fans you will never make it. Vampiro says Kaos just doesn?t connect with the fans and doesn?t have it.

Vampiro talks about fans asking him why he doesn?t wrestle anymore. He wants to come back as a Guardian Angel, to help use his popularity as a wrestler to help the Guardian Angels group.

Vampiro talks about all his injuries over 25 years. When he took off, he started feeling his injuries aching.

Caller Duane asks about Vince Russo. Vampiro says he never got along with Russo. He was so frustrated in WCW. He was at the height of his career and because of jealousy and ego he never got a shot. Vampiro felt like he was his most motivated, but Russo kept wanting to do stupid things with him.

Vampiro says Sting was an egomaniac and very jealous of him. He learned a lot working with him though and it was an honor.

Vampiro also talks a lot about working in Mexico, and Konnan. His time in WSX, and MTV not giving it a chance. The Guardian Angels in Mexico. His brief stay in TNA, where Shane Douglas puked all over the ring. His feud with Raven he wished was bigger, him almost going to ECW. Working with Rob Black and his memories of XPW.

Vampiro talks about the Warrior?s return in Spain for NWE. He will not be on the show, and thinks Warrior will be brutal and does not want to work with him.

Caller Jason asks about The Great Muta. Vampiro says it was one of his idols and huge for him to get a chance to meet and work with him. Vampiro puts over Muta?s moonsault and how people today do 100?s of big moves that don?t mean anything because they are never a finish.

Vampiro tells everyone to come and see him and all of the guys at XPW Cold Day in Hell, and he will be part of the Fan Fest as well.

XPW Cold Day In Hell
Saturday Night, May 24 2008
Aviation Park
Redondo Beach, CA

http://www.thexpw.com

To hear this nearly 3 hour show which includes a Kaos interview, Vampiro interview and a heated argument between the 2 in it?s entirety please visit http://www.inyourheadonline.com and live every Wednesday at 8 PM EST including this week with WWE Tough Enough Finalist Brian Danovich !!!

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